Operating Schedules & Amateur Radio in the Corps: 21 May 2015


Please see below for operating skeds next week and some thoughts about amateur radio and possible options for future operating and encouraging newcomers and listeners to our hobby.

Your comments would be welcome.

Net Operating Times and Schedules

Gordon has suggested we operate for an hour next week.


—–Original Message—–From: Gordon MacNaught [mailto:gmacnaughtwov@yahoo.co.uk]

Sent: 18 April 2015 09:08

To: undisclosed-recipients:

Subject: G3RE.net


Dear All,

As promised, this email outlines frequencies and times for next week the 25th April.


0730 local,  open on 3.722 Mhz


0800 local,  open on 5.37150 and if busy, change to 5.39850.


Stu, I have sent this only to those on the net this morning.

Please can you forward to others on your normal mailing list.


Thanks and see you all next week!


73 de Gordon G3WOV/G3RE

If we adopt this as a plan going forward, it will allow for those stations who are not licensed to operate on 60m to join in.

New Licence Conditions

Has everyone read their new licence and does everyone agree that 5Mhz can be used to contact military stations?  If so then we could encourage this as a feature of the net.  This is quite an exciting possibility.  It’s worth doing a double take and setting something up if I read it right.


People can listen to the net via the Hackgreen Web SDR or shortwave radio.


Royal Engineers Club Stations G3RE and G3XRE

In the corps, two amateur radio stations serve to highlight the corps presence and interest in radio and electronics.  ( as well as local radio and electronics clubs which have operated from time to time in units).  Special events are mounted from time to time which highlight historical events involving the corps.


Traditionally G3RE has been operated by the veterans of the corps, and using conventional kit it operates at the home of the operator on a rotational basis.  G3XRE is usually operated by serving soldiers at its signals training wing (as far as we know – as veterans this is still the case).


In conversation with Spike, G4AKQ about operating G3RE as a club station, (after OFCOM waived the requirement to notify them in advance what address we are operating from), we concluded there are advantages and disadvantages to operating as we do. While the current way G3RE operates has limitations it works very well for the club members.  The disadvantages are:

  • Lack of central logging and we suspect QSLing to be rare.  (This is a shame as we need to have our cards seen.  To get over this I proposed we set up a central log on the web and then send out an eQSL card for callers and short wave listeners.).
  • G3RE can’t be operated legally, as a club station can, by intermediate and foundation licensees under supervision.
  • Signals are variable due to different equipment at different sites.  I would not operate G3RE for example until I had sorted out the noise issues affecting my receiver.  (Can’t hear ‘em, can’t work ‘em.)  Until recently I didn’t have the power to be confident I could reach everyone. These are quite common and increasingly so.
  • Etc

(It has advantages, for me the advantage is it encourages self-training in HF Techniques particularly NVIS and the study of spectrum use, and propagation,  etc)

Amateur Radio in the 20th and 21st Century

Having listened to many views it is plain to see amateur radio means different things to different people.

Amateur radio is changing and evolving into a highly complex digital hobby which is still very relevant in this day and age.  We also keep alive and showcase skills which go right back to the early days of radio – some of which are still highly relevant.

Some things can’t or won’t be digitised because it isn’t possible, desirable or safe yet to commit them to cyberspace.

Remote Radio Stations

However as Digital modes and Software defined radio are taking off we noticed software defined radio can be easily remotely controlled via the internet or telephone line and in the conversation with Spike we concluded we could overcome the disadvantages of operating two separate club stations.

In my investigations of this I have found that you could hire a well sited DX Station with remote high gain antennas, sophisticated HF Receivers and High Power Transmitters for 50 Cents a minute and opeate it from the comfort of home.  So some benefits are obvious for contest operators with moderate equipment and money to burnJ.

How could we take advantage of this?

In the conversation with Spike we thought about the possibilities for G3RE and what the advantages would be of remote control for us if we could set up such a station.  It would certainly provide a single stable operating base with a consistent signal and open our station up for wider use by all interested parties.  Listeners would be attracted,  new operators would be attracted,  The corps would be seen to be at the leading edge  developments and foundation and intermediate licensees could train under supervision.

73 de Stu



About admin

Enigmatic to the core I went to school in Bolton and Manchester and ended up joining up at Manchester in '69 enlisting in the corps of Royal Engineers. My aspirations were quite vague at that age and I was persuaded to drive for a living and occasionally operate radios instead of flying fighter planes:). Having then learnt my trade and obtaining my centurion tank driving licence, my early career saw plenty of action on Soltau tank ranges and the obligatory tours as a radio op in the infantry and engineer roles in Northern Ireland -2 years all in. Operating the radio took my fancy (even after a four month tour following a super fit troop commander around on patrols with a 43 pound radio on my back) - it was something I would eventually be able to teach. After 20 years I ended up in the position of QMSI (look it up) before diversifying into an IT Role with HQ Engineer in Chief. This was early days for IT in the RE and having studied it in my spare time to an acceptable level - aided and abetted by an elmer with excellent skills on the BBC Micro (G3WOV, See also below) and the Nienburg Computer and Electronics Club, eventually I became a CIS WO - one of the first in the corps with any Command, Control, Communication and Information Systems Experience - qualifying as a systems analyst and amongst other things, training at the school of military survey in Geographical Information Systems. In the history of the corps IT was so new at this time, the laptop was only just becoming cheap enough to afford and there weren't many people around who had one in the military. But when the UN went into Bosnia it became an essential tool no officer could be seen without. When this was realised I ended up purchasing a roulement scale of IT kit and devising the first ever Windows and office software training course in the RE, and then delivering it as pre tour training package - with Alan Lewis (Wordperfect, SuperCalc and Paradox). It was in those days that Alan Lewis introduced me to CIX and Compuserve. (No internet, just dial up bulletin boards then). Interestingly when TCPIP took off with email I was offered shares fairly early on in Demon Internet - oh how I wish I had taken that up. There was then this period when data communications became fashionable and I remember working a rear link via 300 baud packet between Chattenden Barracks and the Falkland Islands in the early nineties. At least three hundred packets got through before the novelty wore off:) Not much of a record, but interesting to see how packet took off and declined in quite a short space of time and how TCP\IP has flourished - so much so that the address space has already filled up when it wasn't supposed to:) I took up amateur radio whilst serving at Tidworth in '78 due mainly to a great elmer, G3WOV. Here, besides breaking my leg and taking up shortwave listening, I did four jobs of note; Detachment to Cheshire Police HQ during fire strike - signals corporal, Married Gillian, passed the REA and Morse test and promptly after that found myself abroad monitoring a ceasefire in Rhodesia. The newly acquired radio licence came in handy as they kindly lent me a brand new PRC320 with which to practice on during those lonely nights in the bush (and live ammo). See here http://5820-99-114.com/TCRU/?cat=48 - After that I spent the next 10 years in 21 Engineer Regiment in Germany where I held and used the callsign DA1CY and then DA2DI (on the second tour). Occasionally purloining the CLANSMAN Kit for the odd QSO. While stationed in Nienburg I had the lovely experience of raising my daughter - Sammy and on the second tour my son Tom was born. They reckon it was something in the water. While here on the first tour I had a sked with VP8API (look it up) on 1.10.82. Ian was on tour clearing up after the Falklands war. Interestingly - while calling him on my 100 watt TS120S transceiver and dipole I was called back by 4K1A in Antarctica. I could not believe he gave me five and nine. The cold war being what it was I think the operator was curious because he was asking me where my friend was - (not obvious). Between tours in Nienburg I had the great pleasure of teaching TA Soldiers in 75 Engineer Regiment (V) radio skills - I think I took away as much learning as I imparted. Worked PRC349 to PRC349 from Snowdon to the Cat and Fiddle in Cheshire on Whip Antenna for a bet (work that one out). One memorable part of this was spending a great deal of time designing computer software with a really good RSO who could program in Basic to generate Slidex and MAPCO Keys. We finally nailed what must have been the most boring job in the army, and then they supersede it with BATCO. I had the job of converting the regiment to that. While living in Failsworth, I encountered a lifelong friend, Ian, G6TGO for the first time. We have had occasional skeds ever since - we are still trying to get the 351/2 to work between Gravesend and Manchester - (Close). Notably on my second tour in Nienburg I got the time to practice combat engineering in between radio stags and having got the hang of command and control using BATCO which was fraught, I analysed the radio messages we were sending during an exercise and noted how much time it would save if we formatted them differently - BATCO was a problem and it was costing the corps days and hours it would not afford in a war. On realising this I produced the first Engineer Secure Orders Cards (ESOCS) on my Amstrad PC using DTP. Uncannily surreal, but I also lived for a time in the same flat as Spike, G4AKQ but ten years or so later, and then after becoming good friends with him even more years later I discovered we had that in common when I read the address on his QSL Card. Now settled in Gravesend I had the honour to further serve in both the police and the NHS. Firstly as a network manager - how cool? Straight out of the army and straight into a network manager's job with the same money and a half again. Then one day I spotted a project of note with the police, as technical lead on a county wide rollout project for their Digital AIRWAVE Radio system. How time flies, they are now planning its replacement. Since then I have had many exploits with cost saving IT Projects for the NHS and I can see them replacing some of those systems soon. It will soon be time to retire however not before I save them another few million. Now I work for a mental health trust - I can see both sides of that particular coin having acquired a little black dog at some time in my career, which is not uncommon - I am so glad mental health and the military mindset have become hot topics for discussion :) Check me out on Facebook and LinkedIn. My favourite quote: "What the fcuk do the engineers know about IT and communications?" Will let you guess where that one came from :). Having used and taught LARKSPUR, CLANSMAN, and now glimpsed the Bowman Radio Systems (which was being specified as I was in EinC) I realise that just about everything I have worked on in the Army, BATCO, MAPCO, Slidex, Griddle, VP, SOCs Morse Code, Map reading and Marking skills have been digitised and encrypted to the Nth degree. That's why I am creating a digital record, - before I become obsolete myself or worse - TRON.
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